You're one year older... Yeah, I tried that method in high school. It hardly works. We're talking like the whole twice-the-age thing. You'll have to wait about another 14 years until you can legally exercise that advantage! :buttrock:
Yes I do love Anne of Green Gables even though I read it back in elementary school, it still holds a special place in my heart.
While I love Colin Firth dearly and his role in Pride and Prejudice makes my heart go pitty pat, I have to agree with Gift and say that George Clooney and Johnny Depp are by far my favorites.  I would have their babies any day!  


As far as women going for older men that happen to be twice their age there are a number of reasons.
1.  They are more worldly
2.  They have hopefully established themselves in the career world
3.  Yes, they probably have more money
4.  Everyone knows men tend to age better than women, which means you will def be attracted to him even if he is twice your age, and he will most likely always be attracted to you since you will always appear younger and more attractive than women his own age.

LASTLY and MOST IMPORTANTLY!
5.  THEY ARE MORE MATURE! :p
And they have lovely liver spots and hair growing from strange places....like their ears.  And they smell of Mothballs.
Danielle, I agree with you except on your point #4, part 1. What do you mean they age better!? They lose their hair sooner, die earlier, and they have to pop Viagra! Yes, he will be attracted to you because you're hotter than women his age, but that will be the only reason.

As to point 5, yes they are more mature... Way too mature!

I see nothing wrong with a few years age difference in either direction, but this whole 28 year-old secretaries marrying their 55 year-old bosses thing is pathetic.

Friggin' Electra Complex!

And you really want to go after them for reason #3!?

( Note that by "you" I mean "you women," not you specifically! )

It's all about money Kai.  If you got the bucks, you get the chicks. If you're old and have money, go get some surgery.  If can't get it up and you have money, you get Viagra.  If you aren't mature and have money, you buy classes to learn how to be classy and all that.  See the pattern?  

....wasn't this forum originally about books once upon a time?...................
I've tried the money thing for years... Even when I didn't have it (Damn Citibank and their "Live Richly" slogan). And I'm talk crazy amounts of money. Granted no Mercedes, but nearly. Still, I haven't had too much luck.

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 Also....I recommend the book Starship Troopers.

Great book... the movie suxed ass... but the book was perfect.... gave one alot to think about, and a good story at the same time
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....wasn't this forum originally about books once upon a time?...................

Yeah, but somehow all our threads end up talking about relationships/sex and/or alcohol. Shows how mature we are! :p

I'm trying to think of a good book I read lately... One of my favorite books is probably From Worst to First : Behind the Scenes of Continental's Remarkable Comeback by Gordon Bethune, who was CEO of Continental airlines from 1994 until last month. It's not a boring business book, but rather a pretty funny satire about how inefficient the airline was back then. The airline had gone bankrupt twice and was about die off and he turned it into America's best mainline carrier. I recommend it to anyone who is studying business or is interested in commercial aviation.

"We used to fly about six flights a day between Greensboro, North Carolina, where we had a hub, and Greenville, South Carolina . We looked at that run and I joked, 'Whose girlfriend lives in Greenville?'"

There's also Nuts! Southwest Airlines' Crazy Recipe for Business and Personal Success by Kevin Freiberg, which I'm going to read next.

Yeah, I don't have an imagination... Seems to be the problem for me with fiction.

Thorsten, you are a man amongst ants.  Good to hear that I'm not the only one who's ever read it.  I think it's actually a required read at some college in the Ivy League if you want to study government.  That's what I heard.  Anyway...  Sorry Kai, don't have much time to read books about success. They usually have big, multi-syllable words that I don't understand.  Here's a good book to escape reality: Wind in the Willows by Eric Kinkaid. It's old and most excellent. Anyone ever read it?
Yes, I have read Wind in the Willows, didn't kill me though.
Glad to hear that I didn't make that book up in my imagination...whew...thanks Danielle.
I just purchased East of Eden by Steinbeck and two Jane Austen novels...Emma and Persuasion for my pleasure reading.  Has anyone read any of these books?
Never heard of either of them.  Are they any good? I need a good read.
I wish i was a better reader, but the truth is its so much easier to just watch the movie.  Plus it sounds much nicer hearing it in british accents when it comes to stuff like pride and prejudie.  Plus guys like Colin Firth are so easy on the eyes.  PS. I'm still in my Anne of Green Gables phase...well more like a Gilbert phase, that i doubt I'll get out of.  Oh Gilberts a good example of a guy who was imature when he was younger calling Anne carrots (obviously the worst insult ever) and then he matured into a noble doctor.  For me its all about maturity...college guys priorities can be so off, or i guess i should say, very different than mine, but then again I'm a 35 year-old soccer mom stuck in a 21 year-old's body.  If anyone knows any nice mature guys send them my way :laugh:
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Oh Gilberts a good example of a guy who was imature when he was younger calling Anne carrots (obviously the worst insult ever)

I know that one too well!
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If anyone knows any nice mature guys send them my way :laugh:

This whole maturity thing is being oversimplified by you ladies, in my opinion. How do you really know how mature a guy really is. You have to remember one thing... Us guys can fake stuff pretty well in terms of being a family man by day and drunken idiots at night. You'd be surprised how some guys are when their not around whoever they're being mature for!

We're just very different, and you'll all have to get used to it. That doesn't mean we can't still be very loyal partners!

And all you have to do is look at marriage success and infidelity rates to see that obvious a lot of "mature" adults aren't really mature.

That is a very sad and in my opinion generalized statement.  I think Lauren is right...many college guys are very immature, although there are exceptions.  It tends to be true that guys become more mature as they get older, since they have to take on more responsibilities.  You look in any psychology book and you will find that females infact do tend to mature quicker than males.
   I do not belive that the majority of divorces have to do with maturity levels.  According to recent statistics the majority of divorces are the result of problems with money and finances.  As far as infidelity is concerned I think this has a lot to do with the fact that many people rush into marriage, without really knowing the other person as well as they should.  I think divorce is also just an easy way out for many people who are unhappy.
Screw this thing you call "maturity".  Cheese matures....investments mature....I wil lnever be mature. Screw anyone who can't handle it! Guys..we don't need to be mature.  Sure we can fake it every now and then.  But everyone knows that when it comes down to the wire, we love toys, brews, chicks, and being idiots.  

Of course girls mature earlier than guys.  Girls get their boobs at like 14.  I didn't get mine till I was 21.  Heh heh....

I'm pretty sure Kai would agree with me when I say this: "No guy is down to heart mature". It's BS we like to pull off to appease the opposite sex.  If girls dream about mature guys sipping brandy in a nice suit talking about stocks and investments and all that jazz....you're going to be living in a dream. Because those guys only exist in books and movies and TV.
I agree that many divorces are the result of too many people rushing marriage, but I wouldn't say middle aged men are better when it comes to "actual maturity." They might act more mature, but it doesn't mean they are really any more mature.

I work with a lot of middle-aged men at Target, and many of them, are really my age group at heart. Now you generalize and say middle aged men working at Target are a bad example to begin with, but my working there has gotten me a lot of insight into what we men really are, no matter the age. We're well... men.

A lot of us at a certain way under peer pressure, and it doesn't really reflect the way we necessarily are on the inside. Granted, this might sound like an easy way out, but I have experienced the same with girls. Put a bunch of them together and their maturity goes lower than R. Kelly's age-minimum! It's all about how you get along with them on a personal level, when no one else is around. Society is a real pain, and one its pressures for some reason on men tends to be for them to be complete "assholes" when in groups.

I mean, I, as a guy, experience this first-hand. And there's no age thing in regards to this. Four fifty year-old guys will often be just as big "assholes" when their women aren't around. College guys, who mostly don't have a permanent female around tend to get this bad rap, because, as a result of this absence, we sort of have "permission" to act like this most of the time.

But there are always moments, at the end of the night, when on enough "truth syrup" when my friends and I admit that it's not the life, and that we want to find something more in life. Hmmm... Maybe if weren't "assholes" so much! :p

Of course, a lot of girls aren't necessarily better... Girls can call us immature all they like, but I know I've never used a girl for their credit card or their car. :(

Us guys, just like you girls are under tremendous pressure to be something we're not. In our case it's just different, namely chauvinistic players. I don't know why it's that way, just like I don't know why "boys should play with Tonka trucks and girls with Barbies." Or why guys are supposed to ask out and propose for marriage. I just don't get society. :angry:
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